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Transforming Health with Amy Miller

Lindsay Hiken and Mike Ergo Episode 172

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Summary

In this episode of the Ginger and Chocolate podcast, Lindsay Hiken speaks with Amy Miller from Reset Wellness about her journey in the health and wellness industry, focusing on GLP-1 medications and peptides. They discuss the importance of being proactive in health management, the impact of GLP-1 medications on eating habits, and the benefits of peptides for athletic performance and recovery. The conversation also touches on personal experiences with weight loss medications, misconceptions surrounding them, and the lifestyle changes that come with aging. In this conversation, Amy Miller and Lindsay Hiken discuss the cultural perceptions surrounding GLP-1 medications and their benefits for various health issues, including women's health, addiction, and metabolic disorders. They emphasize the importance of self-advocacy and breaking the stigma associated with these treatments. The discussion also covers the BioBoost supplement, its role in enhancing energy and metabolism, and the need for a proactive approach to health care.

Takeaways

  • Amy Miller started Reset Wellness to provide affordable access to GLP-1 medications.
  • Many patients are unaware of the benefits of GLP-1 medications for weight loss.
  • Being proactive in health management is crucial, especially for those with pre-diabetes.
  • GLP-1 medications can significantly change eating habits and reduce cravings.
  • Peptides like BPC 157 can aid in recovery and tissue repair for athletes.
  • The conversation highlights the importance of understanding hormonal changes during menopause.
  • Misconceptions about weight loss medications often lead to stigma.
  • Personal advocacy in health care can lead to better outcomes.
  • Lifestyle changes are essential for managing health as we age.
  • The podcast emphasizes the need for more education on effective weight loss treatments. Many patients hesitate to seek help due to cultural stigma.
  • GLP-1 medications can significantly improve women's health, especially during menopause.
  • Patients with PCOS have reported remarkable improvements with GLP-1 treatments.
  • Research is ongoing for GLP-1's effectiveness in addiction treatment.
  • BioBoost can enhance energy and metabolism, complementing GLP-1 therapies.
  • Proactive health measures can prevent chronic diseases like diabetes.
  • Stigmas around medications can be reduced through open conversations.
  • Personal success stories can inspire others to seek treatment.
  • Injectable medications can be less intimidating than they seem.
  • Direct communication with healthcare providers fosters trust and comfort.

Keywords

Reset Wellness, Amy Miller, GLP-1 medications, peptides, weight loss, health, wellness, endurance sports, menopause, insulin resistance, GLP-1, women's health, addiction treatment, BioBoost, stigma, self-advocacy, hormonal therapy, autoimmune diseases, longevity, health solutions


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Lindsay Hiken (00:00.8)
Everybody welcome to the Ginger and Chocolate podcast. I'm your co-host, Lindsay, and Mike is out today. Actually, he's in Hawaii with his family enjoying the sun and the surf. Lucky bastard. Anyway, I am excited to be here with Amy Miller today from Reset Wellness. Excuse me. You guys may have read my blog post about my journey with peptides and Amy is someone who's

an expert in the subject and I've worked with on part of my journey. today we have Amy Miller. Hey, Amy, what's up?

Amy Miller (00:36.591)
Good morning. wish I was in Hawaii. Bastard is right.

Lindsay Hiken (00:39.404)
I know me too. I was like, take me with you, Mike. So tell us a little bit about like your background in terms of I think I think you said you're a nurse or nurse practitioner. Just tell me a little bit about your background.

Amy Miller (00:56.047)
Yeah. Yeah, so when I grew up, gosh, all I wanted to do was save animals. That was just me. So I had no idea what I wanted to do. I knew I wanted to go to college. So I grew up in Los Angeles, born and raised, and went to college there. Didn't know what I wanted to major in, so I majored in philosophy and humanities, which you can't do anything with. But it makes you a really fun person, I think. So it was a fun first degree.

and then decided to try my hand at banking. Not sure why. I figured I'd just get some money, travel the world, and then go back home to LA. But then I met my husband in Dallas, so that's where I stayed. So then I decided to go back, get another degree in nursing, and then did a bunch of nursing in the Dallas area. Had so much fun and decided to go back and get my nurse practitioner.

So I got my masters just so I could be able to prescribe and diagnose and interpret labs and sort of be my own independent practitioner. So that's where I am today.

Lindsay Hiken (02:01.922)
Wow, that's awesome. And when did you start Reset Wellness or why did you start Reset Wellness?

Amy Miller (02:08.209)
Yeah, so in 2022, I was working for a giant insurance company doing house calls. So was a community health nurse practitioner, which I loved. I loved visiting people in their homes. I thought it was so much fun. But I realized that all of my patients, not all, but a very big majority, were either overweight or had all these comorbidities.

And there's these novel GLP-1 medicines, right? The Manjaro, the Ozempic that you're hearing about. And the insurance company wanted me to go around and tout like we were all about preventative care, but we wouldn't cover any of these medicines to make them better in so many ways. So I said, pardon my French, screw that. I will make my own business. And I will start getting these medicines out to the people who need them affordably.

Lindsay Hiken (02:37.262)
You

Lindsay Hiken (02:53.728)
Thank

Amy Miller (03:02.083)
And so that's what I did. was, it was tough because I'm not a business person. I am not a sales person. That's number one. And that's, feel like sometimes you have to be that. But this was a labor of love. I still love it even more than when I started it. I've had so many great patients throughout this journey. It's just been the most wonderful thing I've ever done in my career.

Lindsay Hiken (03:26.382)
Well, that's awesome. And I appreciate the feedback you've given me. And I've referred you to people because I feel like what you're doing is super important. My experience was kind of what you're talking about, which is I was pre-diabetic or I am pre-diabetic and I was really, really close to where they would consider me type two.

And I asked Kaiser, you know, I had just gained weight during menopause. It just came on. So I'm super active, but it just was there and all in my midsection, which apparently is a contributing factor to being or can be to being pre-diabetic and diabetic. So I talked to my doctor about like, could I get on a Zempik or some type of GLP one to help me with the weight loss because I'm doing what I should be doing. And in fact, when they

Amy Miller (03:57.103)
Thank

Lindsay Hiken (04:16.78)
called me to tell me that my blood work had come back, that I was pre-diabetic, the doctor said, well, normally I tell my patients to exercise and eat healthy, but you already do. So I don't really have any advice for you. Just don't eat chocolate or what? I mean, it was really like, thanks. So then I said, well, how about this? know, could I maybe try to get the weight off and see if that'd bring my numbers down? And they said, no, when you hit this number, we'll just put you on Monjaro. I mean, I'm on Metformin.

Amy Miller (04:25.649)
Thanks.

Lindsay Hiken (04:42.816)
And I know people are successful in metformin, but I was like, can we not do something now before I'm already type two? I mean, it seemed like that's not preventative. You're telling me I just need to wait. So I took it into my own hands.

Amy Miller (04:49.915)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (04:58.937)
I love it and often you have to do that. You have to be your own advocate and you do your research obviously but a lot of people don't have that background, don't know where to start and so yeah, you did a great job.

Lindsay Hiken (05:06.125)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (05:12.078)
Mm hmm. Well, you know, as a friend of mine who who had been considered, I mean, I didn't realize this because she I knew she was overweight, but I didn't consider her to be obese or anything like that. But apparently, technically, she qualified and she still wasn't going to get like you were saying, she still wasn't going to be able to get the the GLP ones through a prescription.

Amy Miller (05:35.535)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (05:36.622)
but really needed to do something like her doctor was like, you really need to do something, but you're insured.

Amy Miller (05:41.009)
And you you touched on something that was really important is that most primary care, and I can say that because I used to do that, we don't have a lot of time with our patients. We don't know a lot about these medicines. And so yeah, our first inclination is, your labs are going up, run more, eat better. And oftentimes, and especially in my patient population, my patient population is like you, they're active.

They eat well, sure we could do better here and there, but it's all these other factors, right? Age, menopause, insulin resistance, it's all these other factors that we're not taking into account. Okay, we'll eat less chocolate. Okay, well that's not helpful.

Lindsay Hiken (06:19.244)
Yeah.

It did nothing for me except for make me angry to eat less chocolate. It just made me crabby. But so this friend of mine went to a place called the IV bar in San Carlos, here we live. And because she had noticed they had a thing that said like medical weight loss or something on and it was a nurse practitioner and.

Amy Miller (06:26.189)
Yes.

Lindsay Hiken (06:42.094)
They got her started on the tersepidide manjaro and it immediately started helping her and she told me about it. So I went there, but like you said, not affordable in the long run. And the same friend is the one who found you on Instagram and wrote for and she sent me your information. Yeah, I mean, it's great. so.

Amy Miller (07:01.173)
Yay! Missed no social media. That's hilarious.

Lindsay Hiken (07:12.214)
If you don't mind, just because I know probably most of our listeners aren't well versed at or if at all and in what these GLP ones are and kind of how they work, is it possible for you to kind of just go through quickly and say a little bit about that?

Amy Miller (07:28.305)
Absolutely. So there are three GLPs that we're working with these days. Two of them are approved by the FDA for obesity. They have already been approved for diabetes type 2 for a long time. But the reason we're hearing about these in mainstream is because the FDA did approve them for obesity, which is why we're using them a lot these days. So they're not new. That's what I like to stress with my patients. These have been around for a long, long time. They're very safe. They're very effective.

So three major drugs. The first one you hear, semaglutide, obviously that's Ozempic or Wagovi, it's the same name. This works on one receptor. So it's a one receptor GLP receptor agonist. What it does is it stimulates the glucagon-like peptide in the gut to promote satiety. So when you take it, you know, obviously once a week,

It makes you feel like you're full and you're happy and it slows that gut down a little bit. So that's the one receptor. Then there's terzapotide, which you hear called the brand name Menjaro and ZetBound. And this hits that GLP1 in addition the GIP. So that's an additional receptor. So you'll find that that is a little more effective with less side effects.

Then the Rettitrutide, this is the newest one that's being studied by Eli Lilly. It's a three receptor agonist. So it hits that GLP1, the GIP, and the glucagon receptor. So we're finding that it's outperforming terzepotide, again, with less side effects. So there's three to choose from.

Lindsay Hiken (09:09.837)
Hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (09:13.806)
And I am taking terzapatide. And what I have found that I really like about it is, of course, there's the, you know, getting to satiety faster, so I don't need to overeat to get there. But also, the food noise and has reduced so that just the, you know, I'm an accountant, so I sit at my desk all day. And so

there's a thing in my head that's like snack time, know, mid morning and in the afternoon, especially in the afternoon when I'm tired, you know, it's like, let's have some, you know, and I work from home a lot, but when I'm in the office, we've got this whole room of snacks and none of them are healthy really, you know. And so that desire to eat all that extra food has just been, you know, lesson, it's almost gone. You know, I just don't even think about it, which is an amazing part of this drug is

Amy Miller (10:07.889)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (10:12.816)
just the quieting of that sort of compulsivity.

Amy Miller (10:16.697)
Yes, I've had so many patients call me or email me after their first injection and tell me, Amy, I didn't know what a normal person felt like. I have always started every morning with what am I going to eat? And then on vacation, where are we going to eat? Not what are we going to do? So it's changing so many people's perspectives and lives. I don't say that lightly. It's really interesting.

Lindsay Hiken (10:47.084)
I've heard tell that these drugs are so effective and it's having such a positive impact on our society that it's sort of changing what's in the grocery store and what people are focusing on and that fast food providers and stuff are a little bit...

scared I guess of what's coming because people are not as interested in just going and eating a bunch of greasy food because it doesn't feel as good or taste as good on this drug. At least that's been my experience too.

Amy Miller (11:20.367)
That's exactly right. And you know you always follow that money trail. You don't want to keep people healthy, right? You want to keep them happy. And sometimes that means off the drug, happy means, you know, that gross food. So, yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (11:26.232)
That's right. That's right.

Lindsay Hiken (11:35.222)
Yeah, totally, totally. So on our show, we talk a lot about endurance sports, because both Mike and I have been triathletes for years and years. And so it's sort of a combination of like, mental health, physical health. And

I know that something that I'm getting from you on top of the trisipatide is the ipamerulin with samorlin. And it's really helping my recovery, my sleep, and then just recovering faster after my workouts. And I'm taking a small therapeutic dose. I know that I think at high doses, probably it would be an issue if I was gonna be racing, you know, on the Tour de France or something, they might have a doping issue, but.

Amy Miller (12:19.365)
you

Lindsay Hiken (12:22.208)
I'm not, I'm doing age group, amateur. So can you talk a little bit about that? Because I don't, I just know, the only thing I know about it is that it works, it's working really well for me. I don't know how it works or kind of what it is.

Amy Miller (12:34.06)
huh.

Amy Miller (12:37.327)
Yeah, gosh, in the peptide world, there are so many amazing peptides to use for all different kinds of things. The types of medicine, the sermorelin, ipamorelin, those types of medicines actually stimulate the anterior pituitary gland to release HGH, or human growth hormone. So obviously, this is a natural process in our bodies.

When we're younger, we're releasing a lot of HGH. This usually happens at nighttime. It's when the spike happens. Human growth hormone makes us stronger. anything that you think of when you're young, you're peppier, your skin is better, you're at your peak physical level when you're that age. So that's what it does. It stimulates the human growth hormone to just make you physically peak.

Lindsay Hiken (13:23.532)
Yeah.

Amy Miller (13:30.169)
Of course, you're taking those micro doses, right, which can help a lot with just recovery, tissue repair, everything that you think of when you think of HGH, human growth hormone. It's just fantastic.

Lindsay Hiken (13:33.336)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (13:45.314)
Yeah, I like it because I'm afraid of taking and I don't know why it's just in my head, but of like a synthetic or whatever HGH. feel comfortable with the more natural production and within my body. That seems to me it just feels feels good. But I will say I'm spending more money now on little things like I always have my nails done, but.

Amy Miller (13:53.669)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (14:09.408)
I used to go every two to three weeks and now by the two week mark, I'm like, I need to go because my nails are growing so much faster. It is. was like, what? I even, went in at two weeks and my, person who does my nails, she was like, it's only been two weeks, right? And I said, I know. And she said, why does it look like, you know? And I said, I, I didn't really.

Amy Miller (14:17.861)
You know what? Good problem to have. Good problem to have. Yeah.

Amy Miller (14:32.273)
You said reset wellness.

Lindsay Hiken (14:35.394)
That's right. was like, I'm taking a thing. I was trying to explain it to her English, not her first language. So was kind of like, you know, taking a thing, it's helping me recover. It's making it's making my nails grow. And she she was like, well, they're really growing. So yeah. Mm hmm.

Amy Miller (14:48.229)
I love it. I mean, helps with muscle recovery and even improves sleep and it just supports anti-aging. So you can't go wrong.

Lindsay Hiken (14:56.086)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I know you have other that you work with other athletes. I'm just curious about other types of peptides that you recommend to them and kind of what they are and why or what they would be for what type of athlete.

Amy Miller (15:09.605)
Yeah, I would say my most popular and honestly the most effective other peptide that I provide is the BPC157. It's often referred to as that healing peptide. It's amazing. have personal friends who are dirt bike riders, other friends who have just been hurt in car accidents, et cetera, and I've seen this firsthand work on them and almost immediately.

It basically just supports tissue repair and reduces inflammation and it aids in recovery from injuries. So a real funny story, I have a neighbor who's a very close friend and he broke his back riding dirt bikes and has, you know, shoulder tears. He hasn't been able to turn his steering wheel in six years, right, with one hand. So I got a video from him a few weeks ago. Amy!

Lindsay Hiken (16:00.568)
Wow.

Amy Miller (16:04.547)
Look at this! He started BPC 157 a couple months ago. He took a picture of himself turning the wheel with one hand. He goes, this is crazy! So the BPC is amazing. I even have my sister taking it to heal her gut issues. She's always had GI issues. It's actually made from gastric acids, which is really, really interesting. So that's probably one of the ones that I've seen personally help so much.

Lindsay Hiken (16:15.406)
Wow

Lindsay Hiken (16:22.408)
mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (16:34.545)
There's CJC 1295, there's AOD 9604, there's just amazing peptides.

Lindsay Hiken (16:36.077)
Is it?

Lindsay Hiken (16:44.014)
So the one that you were just talking about is a BPC. Is that what you said? BPC. 157. Now is that something I could stack on top of the things that I'm already taking, the Epimorlin and okay. The reason I'm asking is because I have some injury that I'm trying to recover from and it's an ongoing thing that I've had. It's back problems. I have herniated disc and then I have

Amy Miller (16:47.299)
Yes, BPC 157.

Amy Miller (16:54.699)
You certainly could. Yes.

Lindsay Hiken (17:12.898)
bursitis in my hip and I just keep getting, you know, everything keeps getting inflamed. And so I'm currently just in a two week phase of not doing any working out because everything got super inflamed and I couldn't, I was like limping around. This was after just a bike ride that it wasn't even a particularly hard bike ride. wasn't long. It wasn't anything. I just did one climb. And when I got to the top of it, I had this

Amy Miller (17:17.306)
Yes.

Lindsay Hiken (17:38.262)
you know, sharp pain in my back. And was like, no, here we go again. And so, you know, they gave me cortisone shots, which helps definitely with the pain. But there's not really a whole lot of healing there. And I can still feel that things aren't exactly right. So I might try this option. OK. That would be great. I would love that because it gets frustrating, you know, when you

Amy Miller (17:41.029)
Here we go.

Amy Miller (17:55.141)
We're trying BPC 157 for you. Yes, you're going to be another one of my personal success stories.

Lindsay Hiken (18:07.65)
are trying to do things that are good for you and healthy and then here you go and then you have these little injuries and setbacks, at least I find it very frustrating because I'll make two steps forward, one step back or whatever and then, and with endurance sports, consistency is kind of the key to.

to having a good time, for example, when you are riding with your teammates, have to, can't just get on your bike after not being on there for weeks. And so getting rid of these little injuries would be awesome. I'm super excited. Good. So what do you do outside of like, just on a personal level, what do you do outside of your company? Because I know you've got a lot of people contacting you all the time for Reset Wellness, but what else do you do?

Amy Miller (18:38.513)
We'll get you going, Lindsay.

Amy Miller (18:51.792)
Yes.

Amy Miller (18:55.665)
So our favorite things to do are go camping. So we moved from Dallas to the middle of the woods, Colorado, which is wonderful. So a city of 50 million, it seems like, to 8,500, which is wonderful. And so we've got two little kids. They're four and six. They love to be outside. We love to be outside with them. So when it's not snowing, we are RVing. We are.

Lindsay Hiken (19:06.284)
Ooh.

Lindsay Hiken (19:11.158)
Wow!

Amy Miller (19:23.003)
packing up, taking the dogs and heading out to the woods. Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (19:27.02)
that's awesome. What a nice lifestyle. love Colorado. I would move there if I could get Josh away from the ocean, but he likes to surf. Yeah, I know. I know. That's what I keep saying. I'm like, we could cross country ski, but he's born and raised here and I would have to, you know, over his dead body before we move somewhere. But I personally...

Amy Miller (19:31.012)
It's so beautiful.

Amy Miller (19:36.968)
Yep. No surfing here. You could snowboard. Yeah.

Amy Miller (19:45.105)
you

Amy Miller (19:52.547)
Yeah, I can get you some medicine to put him down to take him on the flight. So. Sorry, Josh. Exactly.

Lindsay Hiken (19:57.868)
Yeah, exactly. would be great. Just wake up like this is our house now in Colorado. Well, that's awesome. So four and six. That's you're right in the thick of it. It seems like kid wise. My kids are turning 30 and 27 this year, which is crazy. I can't believe how old they are. They're still my babies.

Amy Miller (20:08.928)
boy, yes.

Amy Miller (20:16.612)
Gosh.

Amy Miller (20:20.977)
You must be using peptides. Look at your beautiful face. That's amazing. You don't even look that old. To have a 30 year old.

Lindsay Hiken (20:28.846)
I'm that old. You know, I'm on the other side of it. I mean, I'm 54 and I don't feel 54 necessarily. Some days I do. You know what I mean? With the back recently, I've been like, oh, no, that's right. Like, OK, maybe I am 54. But in general, I don't feel 54. I definitely not as mature as a 54 year old should be. So yeah, I'm young at heart. I'm young at heart. But.

Amy Miller (20:30.755)
you

Amy Miller (20:41.913)
when you're doing your uphill climbs only. Right. Yeah.

Amy Miller (20:52.753)
Which is good.

Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (20:58.19)
But take, but you know, on a serious note, taking these peptides has really helped me feel younger and be able to be more myself. You know, I felt really bogged down, exhausted and overweight going through the whole process of perimenopause and menopause. I raised an Ironman, a full Ironman with my team in 2019. And I

was in menopause then I wasn't even 50 yet, but I went kind of early and I gained weight while training for an Ironman, which is hard to do. You know what I mean? Because we're doing 15 hours plus of cardio a week with some strength training. And my body was like, I'm saving all of this no matter what. was it was crazy. So there was no there was no lifestyle change or diet that was going to make

difference there just wasn't between 2019 and getting on the on tersepid I tried everything I mean I tried everything vegan eating which partially for me that's the animal thing I like I like to I love animals so but

Amy Miller (22:12.323)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (22:15.65)
but eating just tons and tons and tons of vegetables and sweet potatoes and cutting out sugar and then eating meat but eating really low carb. then, I mean, I've tried all of the diets. Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (22:27.321)
Yeah, this is a cellular thing. This is a hormonal thing and that's what these medicines help with.

Lindsay Hiken (22:33.526)
Right, right. think there's a still there's a little bit of a misunderstanding. And so people who don't know think, ozempic is something that movie stars take and they're crazy because it's not used for that. And they're just and that's not even that's not true. That's not realistic. And I had I had someone say, you're taking knockoff ozempic because they didn't know the name to Zepetide or Manjaro. And I was like trying to explain

Amy Miller (22:54.714)
Exactly.

Amy Miller (23:00.751)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (23:03.328)
It's they're different, they're similar, they're different, they're peptides. And I think people who could really use this sometimes don't want to take a step to get out there and advocate for themselves or find their own source because they think there's something wrong with it. Like from a cultural perspective, not that it's dangerous for your body, but that there's something not OK about getting this kind of help.

Amy Miller (23:29.359)
Yeah, I'll tell you, most of my patients, well, a huge majority of my patients come to me after doing research for six plus months. And that's as a result of the cultural, you know, of our society and how we see these meds. it's just to starve yourself and lose weight. Absolutely not. At a cellular level, this helps so many people. I quickly just wanted to...

Lindsay Hiken (23:39.266)
Wow.

Lindsay Hiken (23:50.964)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Lindsay Hiken (23:56.718)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (23:58.907)
to tell you the other patients that I help with these medicines that you wouldn't necessarily think would be using these. A, women who are going through menopause, pre-menopause, even post-menopause, who are having hormonal issues, they'll come to me and ask for hormone replacement, which is what I do also. But what I say is, hey, let's try a low dose of a GLP-1 because it promotes this anti-inflammatory, it acts as a hormone.

Lindsay Hiken (24:18.968)
Huh.

Amy Miller (24:28.835)
And most of my women won't even start hormone therapy because they're doing so stinking well on the GLP. So number one, those women are helped immensely. Number two, some of the biggest, the best experiences that I've had with the GLP ones, patients with PCOS, with polycystic ovarian syndrome, where PCOS patients usually have

Lindsay Hiken (24:53.39)
Amy Miller (24:56.421)
these strong hormonal imbalances, which leads to weight gain, which leads to inflammation. So at low doses, my PCOS patients have been the best experiences. They call me and email me all the time, Amy, I can't believe I didn't do this earlier. So at very low doses, they do amazing. They just feel wonderful. And in a lot of cases, it regulates their periods again, which is really interesting. And then the second,

Lindsay Hiken (25:23.468)
Wow. Huh.

Amy Miller (25:26.417)
The third patient that I'm seeing more and more are patients with autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and psoriatic arthritis. These patients again at very low doses are doing amazing. Just that inflammation that you can even take the lab work after you two or three months of taking these GLP ones and their CRP, their inflammatory labs are way less.

Lindsay Hiken (25:32.3)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (25:36.194)
Wow.

Lindsay Hiken (25:40.962)
Hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (25:48.972)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (25:56.241)
So it's really exciting. There's lots and lots of research being done for these types of patients. In addition to one other one that I wanted to tell you, because it's so exciting. So for alcohol drug addiction, these medicines are being researched very heavily because of that whole food noise, right? So the food noise reduction also helps reduce the desire for alcohol and for drugs. And I did see one patient recently,

Lindsay Hiken (25:56.876)
Wow.

Lindsay Hiken (26:06.743)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (26:16.12)
Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (26:26.181)
who had a spending addiction. And she told me once she was off semaglutide, she went and rung up her credit cards to $50,000. She said, Amy, I gotta get back on these meds. And as soon as she gets back on them, she's completely fine. So there's just some really interesting, really great research being done with these GLP ones.

Lindsay Hiken (26:28.942)
Huh?

Lindsay Hiken (26:36.482)
Woo.

Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (26:43.586)
Wow.

Lindsay Hiken (26:49.518)
That's amazing. I'd heard a little bit about using it for alcoholism and drug addiction because I'm sober. I've been sober for 21 years and I'm very active in the 12 step program. it's funny because 12 steps one option, it's a good, it's a successful option. There is just a very low success rate of recovery from drugs and alcohol. I'm just very fortunate that myself and

you know, majority of my friends and stuff are sober and, and we've had longevity in our sobriety. But in the literature, it talks about one day they may invent a pill to cure alcoholism, but until then, this is the, this is the best path forward. And so when, so when

I read the first, you know, the first time I read about that it's being researched. think Lily is doing some research on using it for drug and alcohol addiction. I was like, my gosh, they're like actually, cause this, the, that book of alcoholics anonymous was written like in the thirties. And so in the thirties, they were saying one day they may invent a pill. I'm like, they literally are doing that right now, which is kind of exciting. Yeah. I'm like, well,

Amy Miller (28:00.409)
Watch out, AA, you're going out of business.

Lindsay Hiken (28:06.146)
Whatever work, anything that someone can get that can help them with this is great and it's good for us.

Amy Miller (28:14.703)
It's a positive, absolutely. The healthier we can be, the less stress we put on the medical system, the less resources we use, the better off the system will be. I mean, this is, you got to think long-term in this, and this can help fix our system. Obviously, it's big problem, but by starting at being the healthiest we can be, this will definitely take a stress off the system.

Lindsay Hiken (28:27.8)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (28:43.934)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I read Peter Attia's book Outlive, and he talks a lot about, well, it's just only about longevity, and he calls him the four horseman. I think it's diabetes, cancer, brain stuff like dementia, and then, let's see.

What was the fourth one? Diabetes, cancer, heart, heart disease. And in the section about diabetes, he's talking about a lot about type 2, because not all, but the bulk of them. I I was still in the normal BMI range, but I had this fat around the center, which is really the issue with this. Visceral fat is what I have packed around my organs, and this is helping with that.

Amy Miller (29:07.963)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (29:32.226)
But he was just talking about the idea of really changing our medical system so that it's not reactive. Like right now they're like, okay, well you have type 2 diabetes now, so let's give you metformin or whatever that they're gonna give you instead of waiting. Being more proactive is what's gonna help us. And in the book, this was one of the things I was thinking about when I decided to try this was like.

if you want longevity, need to address problems that are cropping up as soon as you know about them, not when they become the worst version of themselves. You know what I mean?

Amy Miller (30:06.967)
Absolutely, absolutely. And the amount of cardiologists putting their patients on these medicines is outstanding. They are really following the research and really promoting and advocating for these medicines. They're so wonderful.

Lindsay Hiken (30:23.308)
Yeah, they really are. One other thing I get from you, which is not a peptide as far as I know, but it does seem to really help me just feel better in general is the bio boost mix. And can you talk a little bit about the bio boost and what's in the bio boost?

Amy Miller (30:41.253)
Yes, the BioBoost is great, something I took myself. As a provider, you'll hear a lot about weight loss and B12. And I don't mean to talk poorly about anybody, but I do feel like it's kind of a money grab in a lot of ways. here, take this and this. It's just an additive. Most of my patients who've just taken B12 itself, unless they were severely deficient in B12, it doesn't really blow their hair back. They can't really notice a difference.

Lindsay Hiken (30:54.382)
you

Mm-hmm.

Amy Miller (31:11.001)
But BioBoost is made up of three or four B vitamins. So B6, B12, B3, B5. All of these things are different and good for different reasons, right? Energy, skin. And then in addition to the B vitamins, they have five amino acids. And so most of them have methionine, inositol, choline, arginine, carnitine. And these are sort of the five amino acids

Lindsay Hiken (31:30.42)
nice.

Amy Miller (31:40.655)
that are in usual, usual bio boosts. What you do is you inject this subcutaneously or intramuscularly. It helps with energy. helps basically an amino acid helps fat be transported into a cell. So then the cell can use that fat for energy. So it helps with energy. It helps with, you know, increasing the metabolism. It's a wonderful compliment to the GLP-1, especially for those patients who feel a little fatigue.

Lindsay Hiken (31:44.376)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (31:50.785)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (31:58.861)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (32:03.918)
Hmm.

Amy Miller (32:10.241)
after the GLP-1. It's a really great addition. I've taken it myself just because I overwhelming great, great comments with the BioBoost. So I was taking that myself and I loved it. I take a few of these peptides too.

Lindsay Hiken (32:20.888)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (32:26.516)
Yeah, I do like it. I'm someone who the number one side effect for me from tersepid was fatigue or just I mean, literal sleepiness. I was like, I need to take a little nap now, which was fine. But, you know, sometimes it's not convenient. I'm like in the middle of working and I'm like, I am so tired. It was always the day after I took it. And I don't have that anymore. So I'm taking the bio boost and I don't I

Amy Miller (32:35.557)
Yeah.

Amy Miller (32:45.68)
you

Amy Miller (32:53.445)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (32:56.4)
I feel fortunate. I don't have any side effects from the teres appetite. I did at first my body needed to adjust. So was a little queasy, tired, started taking the bio boost. I don't have any side effects now. I know a couple of friends are on it and they take bio boost and they still have a tiny bit of queasiness, but it's manageable and it's very short lived. And then the fatigue though is gone, which is great. Which is great. So.

Amy Miller (33:21.251)
Yes. Especially when you're, you know, traveling up mountains on your bike and doing Ironmans.

Lindsay Hiken (33:25.88)
That's right. Yeah, I want to be able to I want to be able to work and then do play stuff. You know what I mean? And so so being able to take the advice. thank you for saying that. I don't necessarily feel that way right now because of being kind of waylaid by my back pain and those kinds of things, which you're going to help fix for me. So I appreciate that. huh.

Amy Miller (33:34.373)
Lindsay, you are such a Yes.

Amy Miller (33:50.863)
Yeah, let's get you on the BPC and then we'll talk again.

Lindsay Hiken (33:55.75)
Uh-huh, that's good. And I will say I just had lab work done and my numbers have backed off from that being on that like nice edge of being type two. So I'm really, really happy with the numbers. And in fact, my doctor was super happy. The only thing that I was a little low on is potassium. And I'm not sure how or what that means. He's like, eat more bananas and...

Amy Miller (34:20.655)
less chocolate.

Lindsay Hiken (34:20.814)
potatoes. like, yeah, exactly. I was like, all right, I'll eat more bananas and potatoes. I'm like, do potato chips count except that I don't really want those. You know, that's the problem is that they don't they don't appeal so much. But the other thing that I do and I don't know if you recommend this, but it seems to be helping me is is to drink electrolytes every day with my. Yeah, yeah.

Amy Miller (34:42.481)
Absolutely. Yep, that's great. You can overdo it. That's a question that I get. So, you know, one pack a day would be would be plenty for most. Of course, someone as active as you, you could use more. One thing I wanted to say about low potassium is sometimes people drink too much water. You think, that can't happen. Well, it does. You can actually make your electrolytes lower with drinking too much water. Of course, this is a very

Lindsay Hiken (34:59.854)
Mmm.

Lindsay Hiken (35:07.736)
Wow.

Amy Miller (35:09.189)
big amount, you know, this is not the 60 ounces minimum that you're thinking a day, this is a ton of water. It actually drops your osmolality in your blood. I've had lots of people I knew who were marathoners who drank too much water, ended up in the hospital because their electrolytes were so low. So yeah, I think those liquid IVs and those little powders that you can stick in your water are fantastic. I get that question a lot.

Lindsay Hiken (35:35.83)
Okay, I'm using Liquid IV and then I will take a break every couple days and I'll use the Element, which is the salty one. It's so tasty to me. I love salty stuff. So I'm like, it's Element Day. Yay. Well, gosh, this has been super interesting. Do you have anything else you want to share with the audience?

Amy Miller (35:42.532)
Yes.

Yay!

Amy Miller (35:57.195)
No, I just hope that people will open their minds a little to these medicines and all the great things they can do. I don't like the stigma that's attached to them because there are so many patients, so many people, excuse me, that could do so well on them. And what they haven't started for is because of the stigma that's attached to them. But I think once it's more mainstream and once the

Lindsay Hiken (36:20.802)
Yeah. Yep.

Amy Miller (36:25.269)
you know, the studies come out to show how much good it can do for things like PCOS and autoimmune disorders, even mood stabilization, know, alcohol and drug addiction, they will be more mainstream and the stigma will be detached. But I think just keep an open mind and let's all be healthy.

Lindsay Hiken (36:35.213)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (36:46.222)
That's one of the reasons I wanted to.

be quote unquote out about this on my podcast and on my you know I wrote a blog post to a couple blog posts about it is because I feel like you know when there were people who were famous who are taking it they don't want to say they'll say diet and exercise and when really they're on a GLP one or and it's not helpful to everybody else you know and there's no shame in it it's like I found a solution that works for me that I think that that's pretty amazing and I like to share things that I

Amy Miller (37:08.014)
Exactly.

Lindsay Hiken (37:19.3)
fine with other people who could benefit from it. And so I'm hoping that the stigma kind of goes away too, because it makes such a huge difference in my life and the lives of all of the people that I now know that are on it is sort of like spreading, like from my one friend to me to another of our friends, it's kind of like spreading out like that.

Amy Miller (37:40.933)
I love that. And that's how stigmas become not stigmas, right? Is it's out in the open. I get all of these emails. They're my favorite emails to get. Amy, I rode a roller coaster for the first time in 20 years, because I could fit in it. Amy, I hit my non-scale goal victory. I said, what is that? I sat in an airplane without an extender. Do you know what a big deal that is? So I mean, it's changing lives and making people happier.

Lindsay Hiken (37:46.143)
huh.

Amy Miller (38:10.149)
That's so important.

Lindsay Hiken (38:12.546)
That must be an amazing feeling if you are someone who had to get the extender on an airplane because it's not, I've seen one or two people need that and it's sort of a process where everybody around you now knows that you need it and it's a little bit shame producing and just the way that they're.

Amy Miller (38:29.837)
a lot bit shame producing. They feel terrible. It's so sad.

Lindsay Hiken (38:35.19)
Yes, yes. And so to be able to not have that must be just like so mind so mind blowing. I'm going to put in the show notes link to your your Instagram page so people can DM you if that's the best way or however you want me to do it. So listen.

Amy Miller (38:40.442)
Yes!

Amy Miller (38:53.687)
Yeah, and people can email me directly too. I think that's what's important about my business is that you can talk to me directly if you need to. You're not going through 18 channels of people. You'll never hear from me. I mean, that's important to be an open book and there for questions. And I'm happy to help anybody who needs anything.

Lindsay Hiken (39:02.413)
Okay.

Right.

Lindsay Hiken (39:12.862)
Great. So we'll put the Instagram and your email address in the show notes. So anyone who's interested, know, I will say I just had, you know, my first contact with you, we just had a quick call and figured out what I needed. It was very pain, pain free. And I felt like if I had said, you know, I'm not ready. I don't want anything you would have said, okay, you know, and so there's no pressure. Yeah.

Amy Miller (39:32.305)
That happens a lot. Yeah, it does. And that's okay. I mean, this is really important stuff. You're injecting your body with things. I want everybody to feel comfortable. One thing I tell my patients is that, you know, safety is always my priority. And I would never, my philosophy with my business was I would never give anything to anyone I wouldn't give my own mother. And guess who was my first patient? My mother. And she's doing fantastic.

Lindsay Hiken (39:56.206)
That's awesome.

Amy Miller (39:59.619)
She used to be on insulin and now she's completely off. So she's doing great. Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (40:03.426)
Wow. Yeah, you know, a couple, a couple more things. I know I was wrapping it up. I just thought a couple of things. One is I stopped taking my hormone replacement therapy.

Amy Miller (40:09.008)
Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (40:15.148)
when I started taking tersepitide, just initially I was like, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take both of these or what's going to happen or how's, so I thought, let me just try the tersepitide and stuff. And I've never actually gone back on and I feel great. So I'm, this was a big deal for me. And then the other piece of it is, cause I wanted to share with the listener, it is inject, these are injected, it's sub.

Amy Miller (40:28.945)
Yes.

Lindsay Hiken (40:39.01)
cutaneously. So it's like a tiny, tiny needle. You don't have to get it into your muscle. You don't have to find a vein. You don't have to do any of those things. It's like a just this little tiny pinprick and

At first I was like, my gosh, I don't know if I'm gonna able to do it. A friend of mine is a nurse. She said, I can do it for you, because she's also on it. You know, she's like, I can do it for you, but you honestly can do it for yourself. And so I said, okay, well, I'm going to try and if I freak out, then she was going to come over. And because the first year I got was at that, like I mentioned at that IV bar, so they did it for me, you know. And actually, I thought, okay, let me just try it. And I went boop.

And it went right in and I was like, well, this is super easy. So I never actually needed that help. So don't let the fact that it's injectable. If you're listening, don't let that fact keep you from calling. Yeah, deter you. Yeah.

Amy Miller (41:22.604)
Yep.

Amy Miller (41:29.553)
detergent. Yeah, and we have oral options too. They're not my favorite because they're not as effective, but they do work. So if it's somebody who's completely averse to injectables, first of all, don't be. My most needle phobic patients do it themselves and they're so proud. Yeah.

Lindsay Hiken (41:36.802)
Mm-hmm.

Lindsay Hiken (41:46.292)
Yeah.

Okay, cool. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate it was great for me to talk to you. I'm going to separately email you about my own stuff. And we'll put your information in the show notes so people can reach out to you directly and just listeners, try it, check it out if it's something that is interesting you if you have inflammation, if you have some over if you're overweight or have issues with food noise, all of the reasons that we talked about I recommend just

having a conversation with Amy about it to see if she can help you. Pretty sure she can. And we will see you next week. All right.

Amy Miller (42:26.843)
Thank you, Lindsey, and thanks for taking the stigma away from this.

Lindsay Hiken (42:31.31)
Thank you, bye.